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teaching kids about money

Everything I need to know I learned at McDonald’s. Or Subway, as the case may be.

March 3, 2021 by sueboo

Almost a year ago, we told our eldest daughter she needed to get a “real” job. You know, a typical teenage gig at McDonald’s or something.

She had been teaching piano for almost two years out of our home, for which I was incredibly proud. And, heaven knows it pays far better than any fast food position.

However, there are some things one can only learn from a minimum wage job. The first being that one should develop a trade and get an education so that s/he is not relegated to minimum wage for the rest of one’s life.

Our biggest reason for wanting Anna to experience this rite of passage in life, however, was not necessarily typical. We just wanted her to do it because of how terrified she was of the entire process.

You see, Anna is pretty amazing at a whole lot of things. She excels in school (straight A’s for her entire school career), she’s an excellent test-taker (35 on the ACT, anyone?), she commits herself to living with integrity, she is a wicked good musician… I could go on and on.

And while I am SO proud of her and the fact that she strives for excellence in so many areas, I know that we build resilience by stepping out of our comfort zones. And one thing that is NOT comfortable for Anna? The art of applying for a job in customer service. And then working one.

There was no coercion. (It took her a year, after all). Just an explanation of the life skills she’d glean from the experience. And…a pulling of the plug on all financial support for extra-curriculars and such. Just so she could feel a little pinch.

And now she has a job at Subway. Her first few shifts were rough and she wanted to quit. But I held my ground and told her she could quit only if she had first secured another job.

It’s strange, but I’m almost more proud of her for this accomplishment than I am that she got a full-tuition scholarship to BYU. Why on earth? Because of how desperately hard it was for her.

Then, after a six-month stint making sandwiches, she’ll be well-equipped to apply for another “real job” working at BYU laundry. Or something like that.

The future is bright, Anna. The future is bright.

Posted in: Everyday life Tagged: Anna, parenting, teaching kids about money, teaching kids to work

Today’s win in teaching kids financial independence.

January 6, 2018 by sueboo

Most days it’s easy to feel inadequate as a mom.  I am well aware that I fall short in SO many areas.  I try not to beat myself up about my shortcomings but instead set goals to improve.  Other days I am on top of the world because I can see my strengths clearly.  And, I can see how those strengths are being passed onto my children.

One of those strengths is financial independence.  That probably sounds funny coming from a mom who is completely dependent on her husband for all temporal needs.  Although Tim brings home the bacon, I make sure we aren’t throwing it away.  And I do a pretty good job at it.

So it stands to reason that I would hope to impart some of that prudence in financial matters to my children.

Kids definitely come out of the womb a certain way, though.  Of my four daughters, I can easily identify the miser, the spendthrift, the coveter, and the industrious one.  While accepting their innate differences, it is my job to shape them into successful humans so I start early in helping them learn financial independence.

So imagine my joy today when my oldest (who is fourteen) creates a flyer to advertise piano lessons then asks which of my friends might have interest in signing their kids up for said lessons.  Music to my ears – pun intended.

Why is this such a breakthrough?  Because I’ve been grappling with how to get this very daughter (the miser of the bunch) to discover that she needs money – more than we provide, that is.  I was starting to wonder if, despite our best efforts, we were actually spoiling her.

As parents, we’ve done a lot to create a solid foundation in financial matters.   First and foremost, we’ve tried to model financial savvyness.  And, we’ve included them in deciding what “extras” they would like to forego to make room in the budget for other “extras”.  For instance, our last family vacation was an inexpensive nine-day camping trip to make a long-distance trip this summer possible.

We also began early, by not giving into the “gimmes” during every shopping excursion.  We’d politely remind our children that they could always ask for those items (that they absolutely could not live without at that particular moment) for birthdays or Christmas.  Or pay for them with their own money.

We built upon that by providing opportunities for the kids to help out around the house.   They earned a somewhat meager allowance with which to purchase “wants” and had ample opportunities to increase that income through additional chores.

We created milestones at different ages, ones that force them to consider the cost of the things they might take for granted.  For instance, at age 13, each child opens a checking account and is provided with an allocated amount (deposited quarterly).   They use this budget to pay for clothing, primarily, but also birthday gifts for friends, outings with their buddies, etc.

It hasn’t been easy to tell our kids “no” as often as we have.  Keeping up with the Joneses is a huge temptation when your kids are constantly reminding you of all the things their friends have that they don’t.   (I never fall for that argument anyway because I doubt the veracity of it).

I can easily console myself with the paid-off mortgage, a growing retirement fund, and ample college savings accounts.  But I’d be lying if I said that the buffetings of kids’ complaints and the restraint of making them “want” for things has always been easy.  Some days I just want them to thank me for being the prudent mom I am, for making them work to obtain the things they claim other kids’ parents give them without anything in return.

They haven’t thanked me yet.  And I expect they will continue to ogle the possessions of others with a bit of envy.  But, underneath it all, they’re learning.

For Anna, I think the kicker came this year when her friends invited her on excursions for which she asked me for spending money.  Each time I reminded her that she has a budget for those sorts of things and that if she feels it’s not quite enough, she can always find a way to earn more money.

Every time I gave the kids a list of household chores for which I would pay them, I couldn’t help but be disappointed when none(or just one) of them took me up on the offer.  Yet each time I had to say no when my kids would ask for something they “really, really” wanted, I was more than happy to remind them that they had turned down the opportunity to earn extra cash.

Our children aren’t going to become industrious creatures unless they see a need.  And the trouble with having an ample income is that it is so easy to meet all their needs.  Because we can!  But we shouldn’t.

Someday they are going to be on their own (Tim will make sure of it – no basement-dwelling young adults in this house!).  I hope to not do them a disservice by lavishing them with unnecessary stuff just because we can.

And today I saw some real fruits that what we’re doing is working.  Maybe we’re doing something right after all.

 

Click here for a printable list of tips to teach kids financial literacy.

Posted in: Charts and systems, Everyday life Tagged: teaching kids about money, teaching kids financial independence, teaching kids to work

Teaching your kids about money-for cheapskate parents.

January 2, 2017 by sueboo

As expressed in a previous post about our family chore system, you may have discovered that our kids don’t get a whole lot of spending money for being part of our family.  Fortunately, we live in Idaho, where the cost of living is reasonable, so they don’t need a ton of cash to survive.

Wait a second.  My kids don’t pay rent, they don’t buy groceries.  Until age 13, they don’t even buy their own clothes.  Every dime they earn is disposable income.  Why on earth would they need more than a few dollars a month in spending money?  It’s more than enough to buy their weight in candy every once in a while.  Cause we all know that’s what they’ll be spending it on.

Don’t blame the cost of living in California for the outrageous allowance you’re forking out.  Be realistic.

Ask yourself why you’re giving your kids money.  To demonstrate that hard work yields monetary rewards?  To learn how to spend and save wisely?  Those are my top reasons.

Do either of those reasons support breaking the bank to pay out their allowance?  No.  In fact, it might be counterproductive.  You see, scarcity requires discipline.  If your children are swimming in money and lack any sort of real-world allocations for that money(rent, gas, clothes, etc.), you’d just as soon not give them much of it.  Otherwise they’ll be sorely disappointed when they go off on their own at 18 and come to find out that there’s not much leftover for their daily Starbucks habit after the bills are paid.  (Unless you intend to pay all their bills, in which case, you’ve got even bigger problems and I can’t help you with those).

Your job is to prepare them to stand on their own two feet when you kick them out of they leave the house.  Here’s what we’re doing.  And crossing our fingers that it works.

  1.  Teaching them to work.  This includes service in our home, church and community, but it must also include paid work so they understand the principle behind earning a paycheck.  See our chore system for details.
  2. Pay tithing.  We believe that everything we have comes from God.  Paying a tenth of our earnings to Him demonstrates faith and gratitude for the multitude of blessings we enjoy.  As a bonus, it also helps us keep our priorities straight when determining how to use the rest.
  3. Sock away a healthy chunk of it.  40% of every cent my kids earn goes into a savings account, not to be touched until they are pursuing higher education.  (When I was little, my parents had us save 20%, which was admirable, but I personally think it needs to hurt a bit more for it to become a habit).
  4. Provide a matching program.  My kids get to do pretty much whatever they want with the remaining 50% of the earnings.  However, my husband and I provide an extra incentive for them to save more by matching whatever they put into savings dollar for dollar.  Keep in mind, we do not match the required 40% savings.  Only what they deposit of their spending money.  So, if Eve gets paid $10, she will pay $1 tithing, $4 in savings and have $5 leftover to spend.  She decides to save an additional $2 of her spending money, so we match it, $4 more goes into savings and she is left with $3 to spend.  It’s a pretty sweet system and you can tell by their account balances who are the spenders and who are the savers.  Strangely, there is a direct correlation with hair color.
  5. Give your kids age-appropriate financial responsibilities.  Start small and increase their allowance to provide for said responsibilities.  For instance, at age ten, you might increase a child’s income a tad so that they can start paying for birthday presents when they get invited to parties.  In our family, at age thirteen, you get to open a checking account (to which we make a deposit quarterly) and start buying your own clothes.  Incidentally, this also benefits me because I will never have to go clothes shopping with a teenager.  In theory.  Once you get a driver’s license, you can start paying for gas, car maintenance, insurance, or all of the above.

This plan will look a bit different for each family, but the core principles are sound.  Give your children a leg up when they leave the nest  by giving them experience in the world of financial literacy.  Unless you want them sleeping on your couch until kingdom come.  If so, then, by all means, carry on.  Carry on.

Click here for a free printable on teaching financial literacy to your kids.

Posted in: Charts and systems Tagged: allowance, financial literacy for kids, teaching kids about money

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